Thomas
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Post by Thomas on Mar 4, 2021 7:53:47 GMT -5
The song is out in NZ. I just listened to it.
I loved the music box they used throughout the song, but the mixing is bad. The instruments are too loud and I can't enjoy Amy singing/understand her words. Yeah, the whole idea of the new album is a raw sound, but the mixing is too loud. This is what I feared about Nick's production. According to credits on YT, he co-wrote it with the band.
The song didn't speak to me like the previous singles. I hope it grows on me, but at the moment I can't connect to it musically, only lyrically.
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Post by fartheraway on Mar 4, 2021 8:09:05 GMT -5
The song is out in NZ. I just listened to it. I loved the music box they used throughout the song, but the mixing is bad. The instruments are too loud and I can't enjoy Amy singing/understand her words. Yeah, the whole idea of the new album is a raw sound, but the mixing is too loud. This is what I feared about Nick's production. According to credits on YT, he co-wrote it with the band. The song didn't speak to me like the previous singles. I hope it grows on me, but at the moment I can't connect to it musically, only lyrically. Agree with you on the mixing/production, but I'm loving it musically! Especially the 'aah' bits after the chorus. I think this is my favourite single so far, or at least on par with Wasted on You.
I feel more optimistic about the rest of the album after listening to this as well. Feeling excited!
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Post by dekkerchristopher on Mar 4, 2021 8:24:13 GMT -5
This is my favorite so far but I'm so bummed about Amy being hard to understand again. Especially in the bridge. I'm sorry, just not a fan of Nick. What he always does with Evanescence at least.
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tezbear_91
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Post by tezbear_91 on Mar 4, 2021 8:30:55 GMT -5
I’ve read that the song is giving off Fallen vibes to some folks. Sounds like the mixing is dividing fans again.
Very curious to see how it sounds.
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Post by dekkerchristopher on Mar 4, 2021 8:39:44 GMT -5
For those who have heard it, did you notice that the second "better without you" that happens after the "ahs" that was in the snippet isn't in the song. It was panned to the left and effected but its not in the full song.
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Post by nz on Mar 4, 2021 9:57:14 GMT -5
OK. Finally home so I can listen to this. Had a few listens just so I could try to understand what Amy is singing. Like everyone, I had trouble hearing Amy over the instruments. Mixing problem aside (which seriously needs to be dealt with at this point) - holy shit I love this song! I really think the experimental side of Amy paid off here. To me, the chorus was cliche (like Rob said) in the snippet but it really shines in light of the entire lyrical journey this song just took me on.
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Post by imnotbroken118 on Mar 4, 2021 10:38:17 GMT -5
Finally, some piano fills! Which is nice because the "strings" in the chorus are barely audible and sort of a waste of time. Might has well have cut costs and used electronic strings. I'm hoping other songs have them more prominently featured.
Yeah, even my best friend right away commented on the mix. You can barely hear Amy through most of the song. And the vocal layering in the last chorus is a mess. I can't wait to get the official lyrics from Amy. I find it's easier to hear the vocal sometimes when I know what she's singing and what to listen for.
There are also spots where I think the transitions could have crunched more or hit harder. I know Ev songs are big and have a lot of tracks to account for (I took production classes in music college and I'd be afraid to touch an Ev song), but these tracks need to be in the hands of someone who can handle it. I feel like I'm missing out on the magic that Amy is hoping to capture.
I do really like the song though. It gives me a My Last Breath/Tourniquet feel with the electronic elements placed all over. There's a specific sound I can hear at the very end in my headphone (maybe it'll lead into the next song?) that intrigues me. I'm so ready for the full album!
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Post by dekkerchristopher on Mar 4, 2021 10:54:28 GMT -5
Can we post our theories on the lyrics or wait till its out every where?
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nz
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Post by nz on Mar 4, 2021 11:00:37 GMT -5
Trying to figure out the lyrics. I have a theory this song may be politically charged and about Trump - but it could be just about being happy someone is not in your life anymore, really. Here's part of the lyrics at timestamp 1:48 now you go out and you remember your friends if you can feeding the flames till there's no one to blame 'cept your hands lost in your lies, you pay the price with their lives, you've gone mad and there's no way out cause we all know you're hollow Oops dekkerchristopher I just saw your message
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Post by dekkerchristopher on Mar 4, 2021 11:01:19 GMT -5
Trying to figure out the lyrics. I have a theory this song may be politically charged and about Trump - but it could be just about being happy someone is not in your life anymore, really. Here's part of the lyrics at timestamp 1:48 now you go out and you remember your friends if you can feeding the flames till there's no one to blame 'cept your hands lost in your lies, you pay the price with their lives, you've gone mad and there's no way out cause we all know you're hollow Here's what I have. Stand in the front but shut up till I tell you to go. Don't get caught up in pretend cause you're not in control 'Cause this is my world, little girl, you'd be lost on your own. ? But do me a favor -? Don't worry your pretty little head about the future, it's all fine Whether you're wrong or you're right Doesn't matter you'll line up to the fight Keeping my head down 'Cause they don't know what I know now As embers fall to pieces Our ashes twisting in the air It makes me smile to know that I'm better without you ?- and remember your friends if you can Feeding the flames till there's no one to blame except your hands Lost in your lies, pay the price with their lives, you've gone mad And there's no way out 'Cause we all know- ? REPEAT CHORUS Not enough, not enough Not enough to throw it all away ? Turn it up, turn it up Never gonna shut me up again Your time is over It's over now! REPEAT CHORUS
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AGwilliams
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Post by AGwilliams on Mar 4, 2021 11:10:36 GMT -5
I really like this! It's sorta giving me "If You Don't Mind" vibes with a Fallen twist.
I do agree with the mixing/mastering problems though, I never really heard it on self-titled but it's far too noticeable on these tracks which is a shame, but I'm still loving all the compositions and badassery.
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Post by dekkerchristopher on Mar 4, 2021 11:16:00 GMT -5
The chorus reminds me so much of New Way To Bleed.
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Post by acoustic_ev on Mar 4, 2021 12:20:20 GMT -5
I'm holding out hope that like with the other early leaks I end up liking the Spotify mix more because that's happened every time so far 🤞🤞🤞
That said I really dig it! I love the tone of this album so far and again sassy Amy is always the best to me. The band is getting a real shine too and I appreciate the hell out of that.
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BridgeToClarity
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Post by BridgeToClarity on Mar 4, 2021 13:56:31 GMT -5
I guess I'll be the first to say, in my opinion of course, I'm not feeling it. I don't think it's terrible and maybe it could grow on me like TGIO, but the production/mixing is BAD. It's like whomever mixed the previous releases did not master this one. Amy's vocals are drowned out and sound altered in the chorus. The lyrics don't feel innovative, sounds very "filler". I'll keep listening to see if anything draws me in. I'm still really excited to hear the rest.
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Post by dekkerchristopher on Mar 4, 2021 14:44:18 GMT -5
This is some of the best verse rhythm/melody out of the discography IMO. I really dig the verses for some reason.
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