Morgan
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Post by Morgan on Dec 3, 2012 1:39:59 GMT -5
Always. ;D Even when I work it into every day sentences... Which I always do. Now I remember why I liked ET so much! I've missed you Harle/Melt/the other username you had. (You must be wondering who the f is this guy?) Haven't been to ET like I'd love to.Loved your use of words in the Sandy-Song. I thought I was the only one who did that. I use EvLyrics in spanish and common situations ALL THE TIME. (I even used part of Like You when I wrote a speech when my father died), but funnily enough I've never used Erase This. Never Go Back I've actually written the long notes by mistake stretching them out like in the song. LOL
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 10:34:56 GMT -5
I've made all those clips. No, I heard that sound when I was listening to ET, then I instrumentalized it to hear it better. The SYW two things, I'm pretty sure the one is the same sound/synth used in Whisper but in the correct key for SYW and probably a bit different. The same sound/synth is also used in Disappear but it is a lot faster to match the tempo of the song. The second bit is definitely electronic because its a sound used in one of the Nancy Drew games I've recently played, to created this electric charge kind of sound. What program do you use? I usually use GoldWave and SOMETIMES Audacity. I usually just use Audacity for audio editing purposes (though I pretty much only use it for mixing my own music..... Which it isn't all that good at.... But I already know how to use it and don't want to read the damn instruction manual for that other thing.), to mess with these songs my computer just has really nice built in audio customization... Which is also why it's weird to me the I can't hear the sound in Erase This ('cause I listened to your clip on my mac, which has terrible muffled audio... I listened to the actual song on my pc which has incredibly clear and crisp audio). At that exact moment in ET I do hear a sound, just not that one. It might be mixed in too quietly and thus blends with the cymbals making it sound like two cymbal crashes, but it still bothers me that in your clip the cymbal crashes themselves aren't there (only in that one spot too). It leads me to believe that the scratching noise itself is a defect of stripping the track, while in the actual song it is just cymbals. *shrug* I still can't tell. Speaking of Disappear, heh, that is good use of special effects. The swooshing, splashing, phased kind of rhythm thing actually sounds like a kraken writhing around, hehehe. Always. ;D Even when I work it into every day sentences... Which I always do. Now I remember why I liked ET so much! I've missed you Harle/Melt/the other username you had. (You must be wondering who the f is this guy?) Haven't been to ET like I'd love to.Loved your use of words in the Sandy-Song. I thought I was the only one who did that. I use EvLyrics in spanish and common situations ALL THE TIME. (I even used part of Like You when I wrote a speech when my father died), but funnily enough I've never used Erase This. Never Go Back I've actually written the long notes by mistake stretching them out like in the song. LOL You've already forgotten RequiemLacrimosa? Hehehehe... How disappointing! How would you say the chorus of ET in spanish? I may need to do that at some point in time, hehehe.
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Post by $wagrid on Dec 3, 2012 12:49:11 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed in the chorus of Erase This, When Amy is like "Is it SOo00oooOoooo harrrddddd for you? 'cause it's SOo00oooOoooo hard for me!" Before the 'sOoo000oooo' bit it sounds like she's saying "Is it SOooo000ooooo aaaaaaa hard for you!?" I thought hard was repeated twice when I first heard the song aha.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2012 16:50:27 GMT -5
That's what i hear too x)
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Post by Morgan on Dec 5, 2012 0:52:09 GMT -5
Es demasiado tarde para cambiar de opinión, aun cuando este frágil mundo se despedaza por las costuras. No puedo limpiarme de estos pecados, o la sensación de hundimiento. Cada día despierto en la vida de alguien más. ¿Es muy difícil para ti? Porque es muy difícil para mi creer que lo que una vez soñamos podría volver a la vida, pues no puedo borrar esta mentira. No dejaré que este día se me escape, voy a salvar esta vida malgastada y nada puede interponerse en mi camino. No es suficiente para decir adiós, y quemar y quemar hasta que no quede nada. Estoy ahogándome en el desastre que yo mismo creé. ¿Es muy difícil para ti? Porque es muy difícil para mi creer que lo que una vez soñamos podría volver a la vida, pues no puedo borrar esta oscuridad en mí. El agua se cierne a nuestro alrededor. No existe otra salida. Únicamente puede culparme por todo. Todo. ¿Es muy difícil para ti? Porque es muy difícil para mi creer que lo que una vez soñamos podría volver a la vida. Si tan sólo pudiera borrar mi mente. Pero no puedo borrar esta mentira.Now try to read it. I find Evanescence lyrics to be really sexy in spanish. I also kinda get a sexual vibe from ET. It's probably the whole "waking up in someone else's bed life" thing. I think ET could be about sleeping with someone after a break-up ( are we allowed to talk about sex in here, I never understood the limitations of the whole PG-13 thing) and for a moment, because you had a nice time, think about getting back together. But then reality hits back home and you think things better. An then coming to the other person and ask "is it sooooooo hard for you? cause it's soooooooooooo haaaard for me". It makes sense if you think about it. There are a few noises going on in the background of EotD, but I think the pulsing is strings or guitar. When you say pulsating I immediately think of the guitars throughout (they're done in a style similar to The Change and Like You) and the strings in the second verse (I don't think they're in the first verse...). Because the sound is so cluttered it's kind of hard to identify things, but I'm pretty sure the pulsating is the strings... Though there are also random guitar notes scattered about the left side that are hard to identify. Of course it might just not be audible in my headphones (some things aren't...) *shrug* I'm going to listen to it again now, hehehe... It's clean-channel guitar picking with a tiny bit of reverb, and it's very low in the mix BUT it IS mixed with some kind of synth it's very interesting and also there are a few random sounds through out of it. And SYW has pads, lots of pads in the second verse (sound like synth-strings) and a little bit in the middle eight. Yep, I knew about that in NWTB, though I have no friggin' clue what it is. I've always dismissed it as nonsense, hehehe. Evidence that Ev is not very good at utilizing these tools, to be honest... Or the mixmaster made an error. It doesn't sound well placed or make sense. Al this time I thought it was Taiko Drums (real or sampled).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2012 13:07:19 GMT -5
Thank you! I will be running around all over the internet shouting... Um... How do you do the upside down question mark? Porque es muy difícil para mi.......
With SYW, I wouldn't necessarily count the synth strings. I can hear those, but they could have been performed live on a keyboard, which sort of messes up the definition of electronics in Ev music, because electric piano is sampled, and we know Amy likes to use electric pianos... That's what she always uses, yes? (I'm not sure about during the recording process, but still... It's a thought)... Which is where a synthesized string/vibe sound would come from, like in SYW/MOS, respectively. We also don't count electric guitar as an electric effect, but it is... Which would make the distinction whether or not they were played live or done strictly on a computer.... Anyway... This isn't really about Erase This anymore, hehehehe.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2012 14:46:32 GMT -5
Hm. Yes, yes, I post in this thread too much.... BUT!
I learned to play the cello part (from the section after "for it all") and the piano part (from the last chorus) on cello! Yaaaaaaaay! It helps that I already knew them on piano, but I just got my cello like... Four days ago... So... YAY!
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Post by AeternusAmatorius on Dec 30, 2012 15:46:51 GMT -5
So jealous! I want a cello and I want to learn how to play it! It's my favorite string instrument besides piano.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2012 20:02:47 GMT -5
It's far and away my favorite strings instrument (I like to distinguish them from guitar or piano with "strings" and "stringed", heh... Though piano still remains my favorite instrument). I just wish it wasn't sooo hard for me to play.
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Post by elodieartour on Jan 17, 2013 16:16:50 GMT -5
I love the vagueness of this song. It leaves you open to so much interpretation. Also, the piano melody is something to be desired. I must learn it! Yeah, right? I personally interpret it in a way much more different than the rest of you here. (Or at least, so it seems.) For me, ET doesn't per se have an exact meaning. I personally see it as the end of a dream, just as (naturally) EotD itself. Just in a different way because EotD has quite the positive message, whereas there seems to be no way out in ET, despite Amy singing otherwise in the lyrics. (It's just the way it feels to me.) Other than that, I love it how tormented Amy sounds on the chorus, as well as how well the emotions in her voice fit the lyrics. The uptempo piano works brilliant and indeed makes for a very dynamic atmosphere. Vocal-wise, I don't think I have anything left to add; it's a difficult tune to sing. Especially if you wanna perform it properly, namely - in its original key.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2013 20:18:21 GMT -5
^ Would you hate me if I said I sing it in a higher key than the original? That's pretty much my interpretation of the song too, actually, though instead of being the other side (punnnn) of EotD, I connect it more to LiP. It is very much an 'end of the dream' kind of scenario, but I see it not as something ending that someone doesn't want to end... Instead, Amy wanted to end it... And by 'it' I mean her career. Perhaps with Evanescence, perhaps as a musician altogether. She has always said she would love to try something else with her life. I think that time between the original idea for this album being scrapped and the new album being written, she was seriously considering her options... To me, Erase This is the expression of that feeling... I mean, what else would she be erasing? Her marriage? Hehehe... It really doesn't come off as relationship song at aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall... But it does involve more than one person. I've also wondered if she wrote this song about the distant past... Specifically about one of Ev's many membership woes.
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Post by elodieartour on Jan 20, 2013 15:37:37 GMT -5
^ Would you hate me if I said I sing it in a higher key than the original? That's pretty much my interpretation of the song too, actually, though instead of being the other side (punnnn) of EotD, I connect it more to LiP. It is very much an 'end of the dream' kind of scenario, but I see it not as something ending that someone doesn't want to end... Instead, Amy wanted to end it... And by 'it' I mean her career. Perhaps with Evanescence, perhaps as a musician altogether. She has always said she would love to try something else with her life. I think that time between the original idea for this album being scrapped and the new album being written, she was seriously considering her options... To me, Erase This is the expression of that feeling... I mean, what else would she be erasing? Her marriage? Hehehe... It really doesn't come off as relationship song at aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall... But it does involve more than one person. I've also wondered if she wrote this song about the distant past... Specifically about one of Ev's many membership woes. I can actually hit the right keys, as long as I've warmed up my voice beforehand. However, my personal problem with that song are actually its verses, since they are so fast-paced without many breathing pauses... :/ Other than that, I like your point of view. Amy may have written ET about her personal career choices, but she may as well have had thoughts about former Ev members or something while writing the lyrics. I guess that's the song on Ev3 that gives the most room for interpretation... By the way, I see the lines to EotD more as a statement (that they've come to the end of the dream) rather than actually taking sides whether or not they agree with it. Besides that, I still have trouble understanding what kind of dream Amy's meant in the lyrics...
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Post by Morgan on Jan 27, 2013 14:18:43 GMT -5
Melt, your interpretation ruined my theory about the song's meaning cause I think you're right. Elodie, I have the exact same problem with the verses. I've been thinking. I was one of the many that begged Amy on Twitter to play ET live when she started asking for suggestions last year. So I got really excited when I got my wish. They played it at two out of the three conserts they played at my country (Mexico) and the only concert in which they didn't was the one I attended. I felt cheated by fate, especially since I went through a FREAKING lot in order to go. And the two songs I wasnted the most to hear (Erase This and Your Star --forever my favorite--)were NOT played then. Never in my life have I felt so trolled. I'm still and about it and it still hurts. The only thing that made me feel better was that I was near front row and I got to hear My Last Breath (my favorite Fallen song) and Swimming Home which was a beautiful moment. Don't get me wrong I loved every single song they played but I had dreams, you know.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2013 0:23:22 GMT -5
Haha, I also have a problem breathing during the verses... Particular the second with "Not enough to say goodbye, burn it 'til there's nothing left, I'm drowning in the mess that I HAVE made" for some reason I just don't feel comfortable breathing between 'goodbye' and 'burn it', so I instinctively go through the whole thing and sometimes screw up on the high note because I don't have enough breath.
Also, I feel your pain Liam Sick... I was also one who requested Erase This heavily. I was SO jealous that Mexico (I even thought for a minute that if 40 years ago my dad had never immigrated to the states, I would have gotten to see ET live) got so much Erase This, hehehe, especially the last night they performed (and the last time it was performed in the tour) when it supposedly wound up in the encore right before Swimming Home closed the show. I WOULD HAVE DIED if I was at that show.... I wanted to see Swimming Home and Erase This more than any other song and they didn't play either of them at the show I went to... I even asked several times if they had any plans to play Erase This during the CoM tour during that live Q&A session with Amy, but she never answered me... I swear that bitch was ignoring me, haha. What was your interpretation of the song that I have supposedly ruined?
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Post by Morgan on Jan 30, 2013 23:10:56 GMT -5
That Erase This is about having sex with someone you've just broken up with, and for a moment consider to get back together, but having reality kick you back in and realize you're just fooling yourself for thinking that. And regretting both, your mistakes.
But your idea is better, plus Amy doesn't really write about sex, does she?
I think the song really describes, Amy's struggle with the band and the label, and havinng to put aside her dreams only to please other people. I feel like it's really clear with the line "It's too late to change your mind", is like after saying she would release an album she started working with Lillywhite and then when the whole thing was pushed back, she must have felt for a second like "Okay, let's push it aaaaaall back" but then again it was too late to change her mind and she now had to write new music not only for the label but for us because she had promised a comeback album. And that doesn't eman she doesn't love the album and the music, but that now she felt responsible for making something and release it soon, therefore, the existance of LIP. That's why they are together in the album, one describes the zstruggle and the other is the apology. I think I just had a breakthrough. LOL
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